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Need to solicit some educated opinions. Background DS#1 DQ'ed from USNA for red/green deficiency after completing application. That's when I wised up and gave the Ishihara test to all of my kids. DS#2 passed, DS#3 failed, DD passed. DS#2 admitted to USNA Class of 2020 Unexpectedly, DS#3 is being recruited for swimming at KP.

Being an ex-merchant mariner and having a 25 year career in naval engineering, I encouraged him to apply and to go on a recruiting trip. However, his color vision issue obviously looms. From what I can gather from the CFR's on the testing standard, if DS goes engineering (his preference anyway), he only need pass one of the applicable tests. The operative paragraph states: (b) Engineering, radio officer, tankerman, and MODU standard. A mariner must have correctable vision to at least 20/50 in one eye and uncorrected vision of at least 20/200 in the same eye and need only the ability to distinguish the colors red, green, blue, and yellow.

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Commercial medical test or device diagnosing presence and type of deficiency. AOC HRR 2nd Ed (now out of print). Require HRR supplemental YB plates. AOC-HRR, 2nd, 1-11 Any errors on plates 5-10 Richmond Products Dvorine 2nd Edition More than 2 errors on plates 1-15 Richmond Products Special Instructions Test Administration The Examiner must document the color vision test instrument used, version, answer sheet with the actual subject responses and the score. If MEDExpress is used.

The color sense must be determined to be satisfactory when tested by any color-vision test listed in paragraph (a) of this section, or an alternative test acceptable to the Coast Guard, without the use of color-sensing lenses. The Coast Guard will accept Farnsworth D-15 Hue Test as a color vision test to meet the requirements of this paragraph. The color vision tests referenced are: (i) Pseudoisochromatic Plates (Dvorine, 2nd Edition; AOC; revised edition or AOC-HRR; Ishihara 14-, 24-, or 38-;plate editions). (ii) Farnsworth Lantern. (iii) Titmus Vision Tester/OPTEC 2000. (iv) Optec 900.

(v) Richmond Test, 2nd and 4th edition. I already know that he will fail the PiP test.

Based on experience with DS#1, I don't want him (or me) to go through a huge effort applying to an academy where he can't pass DODMERB. Now I'm about to take him up to KP next week for this recruiting trip with the feeling in the pit of my stomach that it might be for naught. My question is does anyone know if, how, and where I can take DS#3 to be tested using the other standards?

Our eye doctor didn't know of anywhere to go for the tests. A Google search did not yield answers.

Any advice or information? Click to expand.Mr. Mullen's LinkedIn profile still shows him at DODMERB. You may be thinking of DODMERB Consultants, easily found by googling, headed up by Dr.

Glenn Merchant, formerly of DODMERB. Some here on SAF have had good luck in using his company.

It is a fee service, but the OP may be able to have an initial phone consult that helps a great deal. USNA does waive a very small number of color vision DQs a year, which limits them to commissioning in certain restricted line communities.

There are several threads on this in various forums. I want to share a few things I have recently learned. This from the Health System Administrator at USMMA. Candidates are evaluated medically by The Department of Defense Medical Examination Review Board (DODMERB). Currently, they use the PIP () Because of the many discrepancies and continual scrutiny on this subject, Health Services retests candidates when they arrive for INDOC. If a Candidate who passed the PIP with their DODMERB examination fails it when they arrive at USMMA (it happens more often than you can imagine) we retest using an outside third party qualified vision professional.